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<pinkprius> hey I have a private group chat with users mostly on one server. All kinds of clients. When I have my laptop offline sometimes the dino client can't even decrypt the messages that I have sent from my phone with conversations. Other people in the chat often have problems with not getting a readable history, just "this wasn't encrypted for your device"...
Any ideas how to troubleshoot this? I have had this problem for a fairly long time since it is kinda bearable sometimes, we can fallback to chat without omemo...
[23:28:52]
<Maranda> Is the room configured to show all participanti jids?
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<Maranda> Also are all keys acknowledged by all participants?
[23:30:20]
<Maranda> Unfortunately as far as it goes OMEMO doesn't still work too well on groupchats
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<pinkprius> >Also are all keys acknowledged by all participants?
my own keys are verified. It's hard to get everyone to message each other to figure out the keys like that. Shouldn't it work automagically?
[23:31:34]
<pinkprius> Yes the room is non-anon. But dino shows less members than conversations?? Maybe online on dino and all on conversations?
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<Maranda> > <@_bifrost_pinkprius=2fgrimoire=40muc.metronome.im:aria-net.org> >Also are all keys acknowledged by all participants?
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> my own keys are verified. It's hard to get everyone to message each other to figure out the keys like that. Shouldn't it work automagically?
Depends on the client, but usually fingerprints are to be verified manually in most
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<pinkprius> I guess that's it. It's very hard to troubleshoot because sometimes it seems to work for everyone, then after someone not saying anything for a week they can't read any messages, or after just having their laptop offline for a day they can't decrypt the messages of just some people. It's very annoying, kinda not even in a alpha kind of way
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<pinkprius> But like how would that explain that my laptop couldn't even decrypt the message from my phone, the key is verified
[23:39:22]
<pinkprius> do you think it could be a misconfiguration on the server or muc? Where would I look for the requirements? I have all the mods of course
[23:46:44]
<Maranda> It could be an issue obtaining the keys from the participants PEP nodes
[23:47:51]
<Maranda> If the nodes containing the keys are misconfigured they will certainly cause issues too
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<Maranda> That happened several times
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<Maranda> The only suggestion I can give is if you wanna use OMEMO encryption in MUCs do it with a few participants possibly from the same server, that will somehow reduce the issues to a minimum
[23:56:35]
<Maranda> But if you need a larger scale encrypted group chats, you probably best look at something else other than XMPP currently