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<Maranda> @ping isode.com
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<Echo1> Maranda: Ping failed (remote-server-not-found): Server-to-server connection failed: received a response of type invalid while authenticating with the authoritative server
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<Echo1> maranda committed --
mam.lib: remove unused argument.
-> https://github.com/maranda/metronome/commit/431a4c6e39ec324066319f9b0a7afbccd68a397f
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<Echo1> maranda committed --
mod_{mam/muc_log_mam}: reflect previous commits.
-> https://github.com/maranda/metronome/commit/cd111dece8bcb0e62e33c89ee86cf68434895d4b
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<Echo1> maranda committed --
validate.lib: remove unused parameter/value.
-> https://github.com/maranda/metronome/commit/e3c17cdc4eb1cdce6cb1c3cf0335352715952905
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<Echo1> maranda committed --
validate.lib: cleanup.
-> https://github.com/maranda/metronome/commit/e11ef37b83cce6daa553eb813c1d6cb7c63600ed
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<Echo1> maranda committed --
validate.lib: remove unused parameter.
-> https://github.com/maranda/metronome/commit/2e00e04bf152adc048d9ce4ad15077bec809850b
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*Maranda is playing with documentation...
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<Maranda> yay
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<Maranda> :O
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<Maranda> time to put my horrible english writing skills into be.
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<Maranda> I love when people aren't able to read.
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<Maranda> So basically everyone enables MAM on mucs without warning logging is enabled, and from outside the room I can really just query the archive without being in the room. Perfect.
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<Maranda> Much for it not being Public, and "can't enable that without having to fear this will leak your logs to the public."
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<SouL> Ugh, that should not be possible
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<Maranda> which is what is being done with MAM as long you aren't outcast from the room, or the room is members only and you aren't a member
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<Maranda> SouL, jonasw, well explain Holger or into the XSF room. I say "bullshits"
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<Maranda> so now people use muc#roomconfig_enablearchiving which isn't even defined into form types for MUC LOL
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<Maranda> "Perfect logic is perfect" :P SouL
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<SouL> I was paying a bit of attention to the conversation between you and Holger, but I couldn't understand what is going on
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<Maranda> SouL, nothing he's playing *dumb* basically because there's no difference between enabling MAM on a semianonymous room and "exposing public logs"
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<Maranda> SouL, xep-313 provides *you're able to query logs as long as you have access to the room* doesn't say *you have to be INTO the room*
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<Maranda> and then there's the usual parade of contradictions between XSF documents
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<Maranda> https://xmpp.org/registrar/formtypes.html#http:--jabber.org-protocol-mucroomconfig
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<Maranda> ^ says nothing about "public" just logging
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<Maranda> SouL, and if you pick "room logging" beside 7.2.13 in https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html there's no mention about publicness just logging as well expecially in 14.3
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<Maranda> SouL, but Metronome will always warn users on entering that logging is enabled wheter it's MAM/HTTP or not, because you should know *irregardless* of the logs being public or not
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<Maranda> [14:29:26] Room logging is enabled --> in Gajim
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<Maranda> @ping jabber.org
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<Echo1> Maranda: Pong from jabber.org in 0.051 seconds
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<Maranda> @ping swift.im
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<Echo1> Maranda: Pong from swift.im in 3.514 seconds